Sen. Smith Learns that Polygamy ≠ Gay Marriage

A lot of people were baffled somewhat by what Senator Smith said. I might be wrong, but I think he meant to say that because of his Mormon heritage he objects to government “defining” marriage.

Now that may have simply been Smith’s attempt to side-step the issue because he clearly advocates for broad civil rights for LGBT citizens, but stops short of same-sex marriage, due to his LDS convictions.

“…if homosexuality is the civil rights movement of our day, modeled after black civil rights, what’s to stop polygamists from doing the same?”

Extending marriage to same-sex couples is not the same thing as polygamy. There may be similarities to the fundamental civil rights aspect between the two, but what’s to stop polygamists?

Political strength and size.

There are simply too few advocating government recognition of polygamy to bring about such a change. That’s the biggest impediment. But in the hands of the right judge, who’s to say?

David, gay marriage i guess is just for partnership, pleasure and longing for a companion. Polygamy is a union of a man and women, perhaps, the difference in a polygamous relationship, there is precreation, but in a gay marriage the family extension stops. I am always oppose to gay marriage, and I am also oppose with polygamy. Both destroy’s the sanctity of life, and the family, although polygamy in a lesser extent.

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Allowing gay marriage is no more a threat to families than allowing infertile couples to marry.

Sure I do.

At the same time, there is no proof that two same sex parents cannot do as good as a job as two different sex parents.

Kim, you’re right…well, you’re right if you mean other than the Proclamation on the Family. I don’t need more proof than that, if you might.

The proclamation on the family has stated an ideal. It does not state that empirically different-sex couples are better at raising children than same-sex couples. It is not a proof.

Or rather “it does not empirically state…”

Sorry, David. What I meant was sure I believe the ideal is for every child to have a mother and a father. I just realised it looks like I said I sure do reject that ideal.

“The family is ordained of God. Marriage between man and woman is essential to His eternal plan. Children are entitled to birth within the bonds of matrimony, and to be reared by a father and a mother who honor marital vows with complete fidelity.”

David, this is not stated as an ideal or hypothetical perfection. This says that marriage *between a man and woman* “is essential…” (not “for the best” or “preferred”), and that children are “entitled” (way beyond “ought to be” or “supposed to be” or “we’d like it if”) to birth within this kind of family. Yes, one must have faith in God and in his living prophets to see the Proclamation on the Family as proof that “traditional” family units can do a better job raising children than same-sex couples. That in no way weakens it as an element of proof.

Sorry, David. I meant to address that comment to Kim.

I’m not arguing whether opposite-gender marriages are essential for salvation. What I am arguing is that there does not seem to be any evidence that different-gender couples are able to do a better job raising children. The quote you provided doesn’t answer that question.

Sure it does. God, through the First Presidency of the Church, says that children are entitled to be brought up by a man and a woman married to one another. I am not saying anything against committed same-sex couples raising children, all I’m saying is that God prefers otherwise. What more proof do you need?

Saying that children are entitled to a male father and female mother is not the same thing as proving that different-sex parents do a better job than same-sex parents. But now I am just repeating myself.

Well, like I said before, The Proclamation on the Family is “proof” only if you have the faith to see it. If you don’t, then it’s just a list of good ideas.